WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.655 --> 00:00:05.075 All right, let's go ahead and get started. 2 00:00:05.655 --> 00:00:10.395 Um, so I just want to thank you all for, for joining us. 3 00:00:10.615 --> 00:00:14.635 Um, this is part of our sort of regular conversations 4 00:00:14.635 --> 00:00:16.875 that we want to have with, with you guys 5 00:00:17.175 --> 00:00:19.475 as we're on this journey together. 6 00:00:20.095 --> 00:00:23.175 Um, that, that, you know, the, 7 00:00:24.715 --> 00:00:27.095 the timeframe for, for exiles. 8 00:00:27.155 --> 00:00:30.495 We just had the, the sort of the final exiles user group, 9 00:00:30.715 --> 00:00:32.375 uh, meeting last week. 10 00:00:33.195 --> 00:00:35.775 And, and, and so the know this, 11 00:00:35.775 --> 00:00:37.575 this time period is not getting shorter. 12 00:00:39.255 --> 00:00:41.755 And, and so we, we want to continue 13 00:00:41.755 --> 00:00:43.955 to use these meetings like this, 14 00:00:44.175 --> 00:00:48.075 and then we have some in-person stuff coming up in, um, 15 00:00:48.575 --> 00:00:53.235 in May to just continue to, to talk about sort of 16 00:00:53.265 --> 00:00:57.515 what we are doing as an answer around, uh, 17 00:00:58.985 --> 00:01:00.325 exiles in the future. 18 00:01:03.165 --> 00:01:05.105 All right, let's get my screen over here. 19 00:01:05.445 --> 00:01:09.105 So, uh, just quick introductions. Uh, I'm Caleb Clat. 20 00:01:09.565 --> 00:01:11.305 I'm VP product here at typhi. 21 00:01:11.455 --> 00:01:15.665 I've been here for just shy of 20 years, and, 22 00:01:16.005 --> 00:01:19.385 and so many of you I've worked with over the years. 23 00:01:19.845 --> 00:01:22.105 Uh, first as a solutions consultant 24 00:01:22.285 --> 00:01:25.705 and then, um, product manager and now VP product. 25 00:01:26.485 --> 00:01:30.105 And then Gee, VanDerKolk, uh, is my sort of, um, 26 00:01:31.045 --> 00:01:35.465 co-conspirator here, uh, in, in building out and, 27 00:01:35.565 --> 00:01:38.265 and planning what Project Orion is. 28 00:01:39.645 --> 00:01:42.945 But I also wanted to take an opportunity to sort 29 00:01:42.945 --> 00:01:45.625 of introduce you to the larger team, um, that, 30 00:01:45.645 --> 00:01:48.305 that's doing the work sort of behind the scenes. 31 00:01:49.045 --> 00:01:53.625 Um, neither Gee or I are developers and our background. 32 00:01:54.045 --> 00:01:56.585 Um, you know, I was trained as an architect 33 00:01:57.085 --> 00:01:58.345 and then as a graphic designer. 34 00:01:58.605 --> 00:02:01.985 Um, and now I'm leading, uh, software development. 35 00:02:02.405 --> 00:02:05.825 And, gee, do you wanna just say a few words about yourself? 36 00:02:09.985 --> 00:02:12.785 I always make the very not funny joke that if I needed 37 00:02:12.785 --> 00:02:15.025 to program to save my life, uh, 38 00:02:15.045 --> 00:02:16.785 my life would end very shortly. 39 00:02:17.165 --> 00:02:20.025 Uh, my skills lie in other departments. 40 00:02:20.325 --> 00:02:23.825 Um, so yeah, the, the, the contributions of, uh, 41 00:02:23.885 --> 00:02:26.385 of the people that are actually doing the, the, 42 00:02:26.525 --> 00:02:28.265 the coding work in the background are, 43 00:02:28.285 --> 00:02:29.745 are invaluable, you know? 44 00:02:29.805 --> 00:02:30.805 So, uh, yeah. 45 00:02:32.895 --> 00:02:35.315 And so I've asked several of them to, to join us today. 46 00:02:35.655 --> 00:02:38.875 Um, and you'll see some of them on the, the, 47 00:02:38.935 --> 00:02:40.155 on their cameras right now. 48 00:02:40.415 --> 00:02:44.475 Um, but we have aps who is sort of the, our team lead 49 00:02:44.575 --> 00:02:47.315 for our Microsoft Word development. 50 00:02:48.375 --> 00:02:50.595 Uh, ChAARI is, is 51 00:02:51.255 --> 00:02:53.475 key in our InDesign development, 52 00:02:53.655 --> 00:02:57.275 but she's also contributing into Project Orion with some 53 00:02:57.275 --> 00:02:59.035 of her skills, uh, as well. 54 00:02:59.545 --> 00:03:04.445 Uh, and then we have, uh, guy Dianca, Janice Max Ramesh. 55 00:03:04.865 --> 00:03:09.005 Um, these are all sort of working on the, 56 00:03:09.035 --> 00:03:12.685 this hybrid aspect of, of what, um, 57 00:03:13.635 --> 00:03:16.845 what Orion represents, where we have a component 58 00:03:16.845 --> 00:03:18.165 that's in Microsoft Word. 59 00:03:18.225 --> 00:03:19.885 We have components that are on the server. 60 00:03:20.145 --> 00:03:24.445 We have XSLT and transforms to, to manipulate and, 61 00:03:24.665 --> 00:03:26.205 and modify your content, 62 00:03:27.305 --> 00:03:30.125 and eventually to convert 63 00:03:30.715 --> 00:03:35.085 your source files into your, uh, validating XML. 64 00:03:35.585 --> 00:03:37.325 And so I see that GaN is here, 65 00:03:37.585 --> 00:03:39.965 and Amara ISS here, and Max is here. 66 00:03:40.345 --> 00:03:43.655 Um, I think that's it from the team. 67 00:03:44.575 --> 00:03:49.175 I dunno if there o other windows on here. 68 00:03:49.715 --> 00:03:54.175 And then I see, uh, we also have Damien, um, on the call 69 00:03:54.395 --> 00:03:57.855 who is representing our professional services, uh, side 70 00:03:57.855 --> 00:04:02.455 of things, and he is always very keen to, to learn 71 00:04:02.955 --> 00:04:07.055 and, and, uh, has been very critical in, in helping us to, 72 00:04:07.195 --> 00:04:10.375 uh, implement a lot of our solutions, uh, especially around, 73 00:04:10.955 --> 00:04:12.735 uh, complex XML workflows. 74 00:04:15.525 --> 00:04:19.795 Uh, all right, so just to sort 75 00:04:19.795 --> 00:04:23.395 of talk a bit about PHI as a background, most 76 00:04:23.395 --> 00:04:25.275 of you already know all this, uh, 77 00:04:25.335 --> 00:04:27.435 but there's this sort of obligatory slide 78 00:04:27.455 --> 00:04:30.515 around this distributed nature of, of who Typhi is 79 00:04:30.515 --> 00:04:34.635 and where we we come from and, and where you guys are. 80 00:04:35.805 --> 00:04:38.725 Tify started in Australia, uh, in 2001. 81 00:04:38.885 --> 00:04:40.605 I joined Tify in 2005. 82 00:04:41.105 --> 00:04:44.645 I'm again in North Carolina, GI in the Netherlands. 83 00:04:45.225 --> 00:04:48.205 Um, many of our developers are in Sri Lanka. 84 00:04:48.305 --> 00:04:50.125 Um, max is in Romania. 85 00:04:50.625 --> 00:04:53.645 Um, and so we are a global, uh, organization. 86 00:04:54.925 --> 00:04:58.945 And, and we, we really sort of value that diversity of, 87 00:04:59.125 --> 00:05:02.185 of the different, uh, ways people are educated, 88 00:05:02.565 --> 00:05:04.665 the the different thought processes people have 89 00:05:04.805 --> 00:05:05.905 and the different experiences. 90 00:05:06.005 --> 00:05:09.505 And we feel like this kind of gives us a, a lot of strength 91 00:05:09.885 --> 00:05:12.825 and how we start to tackle some of these problems, including 92 00:05:13.015 --> 00:05:14.345 what we're doing with Orion. 93 00:05:17.245 --> 00:05:21.095 When we think about this, uh, background, uh, 94 00:05:21.095 --> 00:05:25.015 that Tapify has, we have a very long history, um, 95 00:05:25.395 --> 00:05:30.015 in supporting and working in scholarly space, working 96 00:05:30.015 --> 00:05:31.015 with XML. 97 00:05:31.595 --> 00:05:36.575 Um, I mean, if we, if we look at sort of the, 98 00:05:36.755 --> 00:05:41.035 the, the origins of Typhi, uh, Chandy, 99 00:05:41.055 --> 00:05:45.155 our CEO, you know, he, he served on the XML, uh, committee 100 00:05:45.225 --> 00:05:49.115 with W three C, and so we have a long, long history there. 101 00:05:49.735 --> 00:05:51.395 Um, we've known, uh, 102 00:05:51.615 --> 00:05:52.995 and worked with exiles 103 00:05:52.995 --> 00:05:55.835 for almost my entire existence at Type phi. 104 00:05:57.025 --> 00:06:01.845 And it's been a really close partnership, uh, between exiles 105 00:06:02.145 --> 00:06:03.325 and, and Tify. 106 00:06:04.065 --> 00:06:05.085 And Exiles has been, 107 00:06:05.225 --> 00:06:08.885 or an era has been very, uh, supportive 108 00:06:09.105 --> 00:06:12.045 of our efforts and guiding and, and, 109 00:06:12.185 --> 00:06:16.845 and working with us to, to help us be able to provide 110 00:06:17.145 --> 00:06:22.045 as close as a, um, as close as we can 111 00:06:22.265 --> 00:06:25.045 to replacing, uh, exiles, 112 00:06:25.045 --> 00:06:26.565 which they're taking off the market. 113 00:06:29.305 --> 00:06:34.185 So when we talk about Orion, um, I just want 114 00:06:34.185 --> 00:06:38.265 to sort of run over this again as far as the, the scope 115 00:06:38.325 --> 00:06:39.425 of what Orion is. 116 00:06:40.285 --> 00:06:42.585 The, the initial plans for Orion 117 00:06:43.865 --> 00:06:46.685 is very much about answering this challenge of 118 00:06:49.765 --> 00:06:52.735 this burning fire of exiles leaving the market. 119 00:06:53.475 --> 00:06:56.735 And, and so people that are using X Styles, 120 00:06:56.735 --> 00:06:59.455 they're using a word based editor, we're gonna replace 121 00:06:59.485 --> 00:07:00.495 that first. 122 00:07:00.925 --> 00:07:04.415 That is the first priority is, is getting that in place. 123 00:07:05.275 --> 00:07:08.495 But everything that Typify is doing around Orion is built 124 00:07:08.495 --> 00:07:13.485 around on this hybrid processing model where instead 125 00:07:13.485 --> 00:07:17.805 of using, uh, Omni Mark, which is the, the backend for Orion 126 00:07:18.825 --> 00:07:22.765 in a local instance on your local desktops, all 127 00:07:22.765 --> 00:07:25.725 of the Orion processing is happening in our 128 00:07:25.725 --> 00:07:27.365 server, um, in the cloud. 129 00:07:29.385 --> 00:07:33.205 The advantage of that is that in the future, 130 00:07:33.505 --> 00:07:35.565 we can swap out the word-based editor 131 00:07:35.825 --> 00:07:36.925 for a web-based editor, 132 00:07:37.345 --> 00:07:40.845 and all the same hybrid processing background, uh, 133 00:07:40.875 --> 00:07:43.925 that transforms and all that stuff continue to support you 134 00:07:43.925 --> 00:07:45.805 because they're actually on the server 135 00:07:45.865 --> 00:07:47.125 and they're a shared resource. 136 00:07:47.985 --> 00:07:50.205 Um, I think another thing that's really critical 137 00:07:50.205 --> 00:07:51.885 to point out here is that 138 00:07:51.885 --> 00:07:56.045 because everything that we're doing is Native XML, 139 00:07:56.835 --> 00:07:59.965 that double bite language support, um, 140 00:08:01.525 --> 00:08:06.365 Unicode characters, fonts, all that sort of stuff is, 141 00:08:06.365 --> 00:08:09.045 is not a problem, uh, for Orion. 142 00:08:09.275 --> 00:08:12.085 That, that if you're creating content 143 00:08:12.265 --> 00:08:15.745 and you have, um, you know, odd 144 00:08:15.925 --> 00:08:20.695 or unusual, um, characters 145 00:08:20.795 --> 00:08:22.575 or accents or, or, or 146 00:08:22.835 --> 00:08:25.255 or so forth, that that's just gonna come 147 00:08:25.255 --> 00:08:27.335 through, uh, end to end. 148 00:08:27.555 --> 00:08:30.775 And so we don't have to worry so much about 149 00:08:32.235 --> 00:08:35.615 trying to, to dumb things down potentially, um, 150 00:08:36.075 --> 00:08:37.375 to support the workflow. 151 00:08:37.395 --> 00:08:39.735 The workflow will support you where you are. 152 00:08:43.845 --> 00:08:46.905 So most of you should have already seen this comparison 153 00:08:46.905 --> 00:08:50.305 that we put together, and we've, we've shown, um, before, 154 00:08:50.965 --> 00:08:54.105 but it's, it just sort of bears repeating that, you know, 155 00:08:55.105 --> 00:08:59.405 in the, the key sort of feature list between what 156 00:08:59.945 --> 00:09:01.045 Exiles has and 157 00:09:01.045 --> 00:09:04.845 what Orion is gonna offer, we're gonna match it. 158 00:09:06.185 --> 00:09:10.045 And, and for some of you, this is gonna mean, uh, 159 00:09:10.125 --> 00:09:11.325 a deeper integration. 160 00:09:12.265 --> 00:09:15.485 So there, there are many people that have in their, 161 00:09:15.485 --> 00:09:18.365 their document metadata, the document information dialogue, 162 00:09:18.875 --> 00:09:20.725 that you're not king in information. 163 00:09:20.905 --> 00:09:25.685 You have a, a custom integration that that, that works 164 00:09:25.715 --> 00:09:27.205 with a, a database 165 00:09:27.265 --> 00:09:31.975 or some other source where you can type in a, 166 00:09:32.155 --> 00:09:35.735 uh, unique identifier or a, a document ID of some sort, 167 00:09:36.745 --> 00:09:38.805 and it will pull all that information in for you. 168 00:09:39.425 --> 00:09:42.005 And so that's gonna require some, uh, you know, 169 00:09:42.085 --> 00:09:45.525 a partnership between us and you to understand that API, so 170 00:09:45.525 --> 00:09:48.805 that we can rebuild that particular, um, integration 171 00:09:49.425 --> 00:09:52.685 for the others that are just using the standard documented 172 00:09:52.685 --> 00:09:54.965 information dialogue, then, you know, 173 00:09:55.185 --> 00:09:58.565 that's gonna be something that is provided and, 174 00:09:58.625 --> 00:10:01.805 and built into, um, Orion out of the box, 175 00:10:01.865 --> 00:10:04.045 and it's just a matter of customizing it 176 00:10:04.625 --> 00:10:06.845 for your particular requirements. 177 00:10:07.865 --> 00:10:10.445 Uh, if you haven't seen the video 178 00:10:10.635 --> 00:10:15.365 that we sent out in our last mailer, I encourage you 179 00:10:15.365 --> 00:10:20.205 to take a look at that because the, what we were trying 180 00:10:20.205 --> 00:10:24.675 to showcase in that video is sort 181 00:10:24.675 --> 00:10:28.035 of a principle behind the way that we're building Orion, 182 00:10:28.605 --> 00:10:30.795 where we want it to be self-service. 183 00:10:31.375 --> 00:10:34.395 We want you to be able to manage and maintain 184 00:10:34.775 --> 00:10:39.595 and customize the product in without having 185 00:10:39.595 --> 00:10:42.355 to wait on somebody else, either wait on us 186 00:10:42.355 --> 00:10:44.675 or wait on somebody else to, to configure things 187 00:10:44.785 --> 00:10:48.195 that we want to use, uh, off the shelf 188 00:10:49.075 --> 00:10:52.275 standard conventions, um, to, to manage this 189 00:10:52.335 --> 00:10:56.355 and provide a, a user interface, um, 190 00:10:57.215 --> 00:11:00.795 for administrative sort of, uh, setup 191 00:11:01.135 --> 00:11:04.715 and distribution of those configurations to 192 00:11:05.335 --> 00:11:07.835 all the end users in your organization. 193 00:11:09.015 --> 00:11:11.795 And so we feel like that's a, a really nice thing that, 194 00:11:11.795 --> 00:11:14.035 that benefits you in that initial rollout. 195 00:11:14.495 --> 00:11:18.835 Um, and any potential, uh, changes that happen over time, 196 00:11:18.975 --> 00:11:22.155 we recognize that, that, that configuring the dialogue or, 197 00:11:22.155 --> 00:11:25.195 or the styles is not something you do on a daily basis, 198 00:11:25.695 --> 00:11:28.115 but when you do have to do it, it can be quite a pain. 199 00:11:28.295 --> 00:11:29.595 And so we want to make sure 200 00:11:29.595 --> 00:11:32.115 that you have the power to do that yourself. 201 00:11:34.075 --> 00:11:36.455 The, the, the cleanup and the fine change rules. 202 00:11:36.765 --> 00:11:38.255 This is a big part of, 203 00:11:38.435 --> 00:11:40.615 of something we're working on in the second half 204 00:11:40.675 --> 00:11:44.255 of this year around creating, um, 205 00:11:44.905 --> 00:11:46.615 transition tools, uh, 206 00:11:46.755 --> 00:11:50.695 and thinking about how we can, um, ingest 207 00:11:50.715 --> 00:11:53.655 or import the settings from your 208 00:11:54.175 --> 00:11:57.335 existing exiles configuration into Orion. 209 00:11:57.795 --> 00:12:00.335 And so you're not having to recreate things, 210 00:12:00.925 --> 00:12:05.295 it's just a matter of pointing typify, uh, to the, 211 00:12:05.315 --> 00:12:07.975 the various text files that, that make up the configuration 212 00:12:07.975 --> 00:12:12.455 for exiles, importing those into, to our system so 213 00:12:12.455 --> 00:12:15.135 that you can now use those with Orion, um, 214 00:12:15.135 --> 00:12:16.495 without having to do anything extra. 215 00:12:18.105 --> 00:12:23.085 Um, another thing to to, to point out, uh, in that, 216 00:12:23.225 --> 00:12:27.515 the way that from a, um, from a skew perspective 217 00:12:28.455 --> 00:12:33.355 and in exiles, that there were different pricings 218 00:12:33.615 --> 00:12:37.715 around whether you had Cross Rev or PubMed linking or, 219 00:12:38.215 --> 00:12:42.555 or so forth, because we're integrating directly with Edix, 220 00:12:42.565 --> 00:12:45.595 which provides all of that access, uh, in one, 221 00:12:47.195 --> 00:12:50.745 we're simplifying that with Orion, that you just have access 222 00:12:50.745 --> 00:12:52.865 to edix, and so you have access to 223 00:12:53.525 --> 00:12:57.105 all the cross ref PubMed linking, um, and corrections 224 00:12:57.165 --> 00:12:58.785 and so forth that you can desire. 225 00:12:59.325 --> 00:13:02.425 Um, and so that's, that's a, a, a nice difference between, 226 00:13:02.965 --> 00:13:06.105 uh, the, the way that Exiles was delivered 227 00:13:06.245 --> 00:13:09.305 and what Orion will be delivered, um, to you. 228 00:13:11.135 --> 00:13:14.195 One of the big things that, that, uh, Tica and, 229 00:13:14.255 --> 00:13:18.875 and Max have been working on, uh, also includes how 230 00:13:19.095 --> 00:13:20.875 to support change tracking. 231 00:13:21.895 --> 00:13:25.875 So instead of the, the traditional way that Exiles operates, 232 00:13:25.875 --> 00:13:27.515 where you do diff compares, 233 00:13:27.515 --> 00:13:31.155 and so you have all these sort of base documents 234 00:13:31.155 --> 00:13:33.795 that you're comparing against to see, well, what, 235 00:13:34.105 --> 00:13:37.555 what changed when Exiles did its processing? 236 00:13:38.295 --> 00:13:41.435 So I can decide, do I, what, what do I need to, to look at 237 00:13:41.455 --> 00:13:43.475 or, or think about or where the questions are. 238 00:13:44.305 --> 00:13:45.795 With, with type tify 239 00:13:45.895 --> 00:13:49.155 and Orion, we are gonna have inline, uh, 240 00:13:49.155 --> 00:13:50.515 change tracking throughout. 241 00:13:51.695 --> 00:13:52.835 And so you'll actually be able 242 00:13:52.835 --> 00:13:55.715 to use the standard track changes feature, uh, 243 00:13:55.975 --> 00:13:57.395 within Microsoft Word. 244 00:13:57.535 --> 00:14:01.155 So this can both track your own changes, um, as well 245 00:14:01.175 --> 00:14:03.075 as tracking the changes from Orion. 246 00:14:03.775 --> 00:14:06.795 And we think that's a, a, a pretty nice, uh, 247 00:14:06.795 --> 00:14:09.555 feature enhancement when we think about editorial workflows. 248 00:14:12.305 --> 00:14:13.445 All right, I'm almost done with the slides, 249 00:14:13.445 --> 00:14:15.525 and then we can actually get into the, the meat 250 00:14:15.545 --> 00:14:16.765 of the, the conversation. 251 00:14:19.285 --> 00:14:23.105 So, um, from a timing perspective, uh, the, 252 00:14:23.645 --> 00:14:25.145 the principles that, that gee 253 00:14:25.145 --> 00:14:28.745 and I are following in our product management is, you know, 254 00:14:28.745 --> 00:14:29.825 timing is critical. 255 00:14:30.045 --> 00:14:32.785 The transition, we wanna make sure that transition is 256 00:14:33.285 --> 00:14:34.465 as smooth as possible. 257 00:14:34.925 --> 00:14:38.705 Uh, part of that transition involves the training aspect, 258 00:14:38.885 --> 00:14:41.305 uh, because there will be some differences between the way 259 00:14:41.305 --> 00:14:44.305 that exiles operates in the way that, uh, Orion operates. 260 00:14:44.885 --> 00:14:47.185 Uh, and then lastly, transparency, which is 261 00:14:47.185 --> 00:14:48.825 what we're doing right here and 262 00:14:48.825 --> 00:14:51.925 what we'll be doing throughout the, this development cycle. 263 00:14:52.185 --> 00:14:56.135 Um, with Orion, one of the things I really wanna sort 264 00:14:56.135 --> 00:14:59.255 of point out, uh, tify will be, uh, 265 00:14:59.435 --> 00:15:01.415 in person at CSE 266 00:15:01.675 --> 00:15:05.935 and SSP, uh, at the beginning and end of May. 267 00:15:06.635 --> 00:15:09.055 And so we're really hoping to actually, you know, 268 00:15:09.055 --> 00:15:12.295 finally be able to meet people in person again, uh, and, 269 00:15:12.355 --> 00:15:15.735 and talk and showcase, uh, an end-to-end demonstration 270 00:15:15.835 --> 00:15:19.055 of Orion, where we will start with a Word file. 271 00:15:19.595 --> 00:15:22.575 We will apply some, uh, cleanup and, 272 00:15:22.875 --> 00:15:26.375 and automated, um, redaction to it, uh, 273 00:15:26.775 --> 00:15:28.855 reference correction cleanup, uh, 274 00:15:28.915 --> 00:15:32.335 and then export into Jets as a, as a, 275 00:15:32.475 --> 00:15:35.615 as an end-to-end demonstration, uh, with Orion. 276 00:15:35.835 --> 00:15:37.415 And so we're, we're excited about that. 277 00:15:37.505 --> 00:15:40.055 We're on target, uh, for that, and, 278 00:15:40.055 --> 00:15:42.735 and we're looking forward to, to be able to, to capture 279 00:15:43.695 --> 00:15:47.255 feedback and, and sort of meet with you guys all in person. 280 00:15:47.635 --> 00:15:51.075 Um, at that point, so 281 00:15:52.305 --> 00:15:56.395 Dash is sort of laying out the, the, the baseline of, of 282 00:15:56.545 --> 00:15:59.315 what Orion is, and, and 283 00:16:00.185 --> 00:16:02.155 because different people are coming into this from 284 00:16:02.155 --> 00:16:03.715 different, uh, directions. 285 00:16:04.305 --> 00:16:06.955 Some people are new to the community, um, 286 00:16:07.265 --> 00:16:08.915 some people have been here from before. 287 00:16:09.575 --> 00:16:13.115 Um, one of the things that we also want to, um, 288 00:16:14.305 --> 00:16:19.185 encourage you, so we're working through like at, 289 00:16:19.205 --> 00:16:21.985 at every previous meeting we've talked about, you know, 290 00:16:21.985 --> 00:16:24.585 setting up one-on-ones and, 291 00:16:24.605 --> 00:16:26.465 and having some detailed conversations. 292 00:16:27.245 --> 00:16:31.945 And we've had so many people, uh, reach out to, 293 00:16:32.085 --> 00:16:35.065 to do that, that it's been a little overwhelming. 294 00:16:35.765 --> 00:16:39.705 Um, and so one of the things that we're gonna do, um, is, 295 00:16:39.925 --> 00:16:44.425 is set up a, like a Calendly link, um, so 296 00:16:44.505 --> 00:16:49.025 that you can like schedule just within our calendar 297 00:16:49.205 --> 00:16:52.745 and just grab a time, uh, to, to do these one-on-ones. 298 00:16:52.885 --> 00:16:54.865 Um, we, we thank you for your patience. 299 00:16:54.965 --> 00:16:58.425 We are excited about talking with you, excited about sort 300 00:16:58.425 --> 00:17:01.385 of understanding more particulars about your individual 301 00:17:02.985 --> 00:17:04.585 challenges and, and hopes 302 00:17:04.585 --> 00:17:09.385 and aspirations, uh, for, for where exiles, um, transition 303 00:17:09.445 --> 00:17:12.745 to Orion, uh, will enable you and take you. 304 00:17:13.205 --> 00:17:16.065 Um, and so just, just bear with us as we continue working 305 00:17:16.065 --> 00:17:18.025 through, um, those meetings 306 00:17:18.165 --> 00:17:22.225 and if we haven't gotten to you yet, um, we will very soon. 307 00:17:22.925 --> 00:17:26.465 Um, and so I'm gonna stop sharing my screen 308 00:17:27.425 --> 00:17:29.345 'cause I don't need to see the big red thing 309 00:17:29.345 --> 00:17:31.225 and I can make your faces life bigger.